Mac Users Froth…

Published 10/15/04

Yep, all those letters were real. My USA Today editor took out the details of the writers. Here is the relevant section with the names of the writers intact:

(Dr. Jeffrey Reese Zavaleta (drzavaleta@mac.com), an M.D. in Irving, Tex., asked, “What do you mean by ‘little people’? I’m 6′0.” He then suggested that I “Go back to your winblows software and be happy.”)

[snip]

Mac Daily something

What kind of people read Mac Daily News? Although I got some polite letters “correcting” me (my information was already correct), most were along the lines of what Mac user “gabeharville” wrote. His note had a subject of “you suck, you f—-n little b—-f–” and read simply, “F–K YOU, F–K YOUF–K YOUF–K YOUF–K…” And so on, for several more lines. I’ve added the dashes here; he didn’t.

AnotherMac user, one “rp” (finalcutpro78@yahoo.com) had this to say: “Wake up an [sic] smell the roses a–hole. PC’s [sic] are far behind Macs. Get you [sic] f–king s–t straight you f–king geek.”

In a later note “rp” pointed me to a pro-Mac article with a note, “This guy is up for the next Pulitzer you f–king fat pig faced gay b–tch c–t bag pole smoking mofo. Take notes you a–hole.”

And points for brevity go to Mac user “Nick” from Albany, N.Y. (macattack15@spymac.com), who wrote, simply, “douche.” Yep, that was the entirely of his note.

You can almost picture these folks, sitting in their bedrooms in their Moms’ basements, candles burning in front of the Steve Jobs poster, scouring the Net for anyone who doesn’t speak highly enough about the Mac.

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The Fray


Michael says:

Andrew, when you can write like this…
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments_opinion/4367/
…we’ll bother listening to your opinions.

December 4th, 2004 at 11:30 PM

Andrew says:

When I’m a *worse* writer you’ll listen to me?

If I ever sink to the level of Mac Daily News, I’ll look for another job.

December 5th, 2004 at 12:09 AM

Andrew says:

Let me clarify: Mac Daily News is a site for people to tell each other how wonderful they are for choosing the same computer. It’s not about reality; it’s about mutual masturbation.

The Mac as fine chocolate? Pu-leeze.

When I comment that OS9 (which I’m using at work) sucks, I get Mac people telling me, ‘Well of course OS9 sucks. But OSX is wonderful!’ Sadly, these are the same folks who would have sung the praises of OS9 a couple of years ago, and of OS8 before that.

Reality doesn’t matter to these people. All that matters is that Apple can do nothing wrong. It’s bad writing, non-journalism, and a silly, silly site.

December 5th, 2004 at 12:13 AM

Michael says:

A lot of people really enjoy MacDailyNews, from the looks of the site’s reader feedback, it is quite popular. They serve a useful purpose: bringing news of Apple Computer-related products, and events, commenting on articles others write, and allowing their readers to add their comments as well. I like the site.

The chocolate article is a parable. It is also an “opinion” piece and clearly marked as such. MDN is not calling it “news.”

I use both Windows XP Pro and Mac OS X 10.3 Panther. The Mac OS X machine is clearly better, especially for surfing the Internet without virus and malware worries. My Mac is totally immune while being much more enjoyable to use. The superiority overall of Mac OS X over Windwos XP is very obvious.

Yu should really give Mac OS X an honest try and I think you’ll experience something akin to what David Coursey experienced. Your USA Today readers would benefit from reading of your journey, too:
http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/4520-6033_16-4207178.html

December 5th, 2004 at 11:20 PM

Dolce Vita says:

I’m surprised you have a job in journalism (well, at McPaper, not sure if that qualifies in full). One of these days openly displaying your biase and contempt for an important segment of your beat will catch up with you.

December 6th, 2004 at 10:30 AM

Roy says:

Mac or PC, you chose. But as a tech journalist, shouldn’t you write about all the prespectives and choises? Otherwise, it’s just an opinion piece. I know that Mac zealots suck, but the technology is valid, and if you let readers of MacDailyNews dictate the content of your tech writing, then you are no better than them. To say it’s too much trouble to write about Mac’s is clearly a copout. Nobody said our jobs would be easy. You are defined by how you work through difficult tasks (or reporting infromation that is difficult). By not showing consumers the whole picture, you are not really reporting at all. You are avoiding doing the research. Who cares what Mac-heads say to you anyway? You are a writer, deal with it boy, and get off your lazy a$$ and do some real work.

December 6th, 2004 at 11:23 AM

Roy says:

And as ironic as it may seem that MDN does not use OS X computers, I find equally ironic that you are reading “The Cult Of Mac”. Getting to know thy enemy? You see, you should be really researching the technology, not the people who make fun of you.
(and yes, my previous post should have been “choices”, I know it’s a type-o).

December 6th, 2004 at 11:26 AM

Andrew says:

“Dolce” and Roy: The USA Today piece is a column. Column. By definition, it’s opinion.

December 6th, 2004 at 11:26 AM

Andrew says:

Oh, I’m reading “The Cult of Mac” ’cause the publisher sent it to me. It’s a hoot.

December 6th, 2004 at 11:28 AM

Steve says:

Andrew wrote:

“When I comment that OS9 (which I’m using at work) sucks, I get Mac people telling me, ‘Well of course OS9 sucks. But OSX is wonderful!’ Sadly, these are the same folks who would have sung the praises of OS9 a couple of years ago, and of OS8 before that.”

Well, in all fairness, as a PC user I might have liked Win 95, Win 3.1, etc. in their time, but would likewise agree that they “suck” by comparison today. From what I’ve seen, OS X is significantly better than OS 9, OS 8, etc. Likewise, I don’t quite see the contradiction you’re eluding to.

What if a Mac user were to complain about Windows machine they use at work that’s still stuck on Win 3.1? How would you respond? I’d suggest they upgrade to a recent version of Windows or stop complaining. Yes, Win 3.1 “sucks” by comparison today. Does that mean I didn’t like it in it’s time?

December 6th, 2004 at 3:23 PM

Box o' Rocks says:

MDN runs on Linux after running Mac OS X and FreeBSD? Shock and horror.

Gee, I wonder what MacCentral, granddaddy of them all, runs?
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=maccentral.com
Linux.

What about MacMinute?
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=macminute.com
FreeBSD.

MacSurfer?
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=macsurfer.com
Linux, then FreeBSD.

MacNN?
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=macsurfer.com
FreeBSD.

December 6th, 2004 at 4:17 PM

bezier says:

You respond other comment, but why aren’t you responding to Steve comment? Start to see the light? Anyway, what kind of publication is USA Today? Seems it’s kind of a garbage publication. No offense, but I’m Indonesian, and I don’t know what kind of publication it is. I just try to guess from the way you write things.

December 11th, 2004 at 11:11 AM

Andrew says:

I just got bored dealing with this stuff. Sorry!

December 11th, 2004 at 11:33 AM

Jack A says:

I think that the reason you get such a strong reaction from MacUser community Andrew is because many MacUsers:

“find it unconscionable that outstanding work is being judged by mediocre people.”

December 11th, 2004 at 2:27 PM

Joseph Daniel Zukiger says:

When you’re a critic, you’re guaranteed to be wrong.

When you’re a famous critic, you’re guaranteed to be hated for being wrong.

What’s the news about that?

Of course, criticism is also guaranteed to be right, as well, which is why it’s such an easy job. (Also one of the reasons critics tend to be hated for being wrong.)

A mature critic (sorry, Andrew) learns to let the coarse counter-criticism slide.

Your choice, but it will reflect on you and your opinions better when you learn to to acknowledge the enmity you create as just being a part of your job.

JDZ

December 15th, 2004 at 12:56 AM

Ajarion says:

Mac sucks.
Linux rules.

May 25th, 2005 at 12:30 PM

PowerMac says:

From what I’ve been discovering, some sites incorrectly say that a Mac site is running FreeBSD (which is what Mac OSX is built on).

September 16th, 2005 at 3:34 PM

rick says:

Your correct in your assesment of the ipod, it really is a nice piece of hardware but it doesn’t blow the competitors away. However, when used in conjunction with the itunes music store, apples marketing, and third party accessories, it makes the ipod one tough guy to beat.

Until the competition decides to create their own total solution, apples market share will be head over heels over all.

September 16th, 2005 at 5:25 PM

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