Homeland Security?

Published 9/1/05

I listened to an NPR reporter absolutely take down Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff.

Chertoff had insisted, on the air, that the people at the New Orleans convention center were not in desperate straits, and that food and water was coming in.

When the NPR anchor told him that a reporter had just said there were thousands of people at the convention center desperate for food and water, Chertoff told him not to believe rumors.

‘This isn’t rumor,’ the anchor said. ‘This is a reporter on the ground there who has been to refugee camps.’

Chertoff repeated the scripted bit about help being on the way and that people should go to designated areas for help.

So NPR put the reporter, John Burnett, on the air. ‘Let me be clear to Secretary Chertoff,’ he said,

There are, I estimate, 2,000 people living like animals inside the city convention center and around it. They’ve been there since the hurricane. There’s no food. There’s absolutely no water, there’s no medical treatment. There’s no police and no security. And there are two dead bodies lying on the ground and in a wheelchair beside the convention center — both elderly people, both covered with blankets now.”

Further, Burnett said, the convention center is where people are being told to go — they’re being told it’s a designated help zone (or whatever they’re calling it).

This is a test of homeland security. We knew for days that Katrina was going to hit New Orleans. And, three days later, we still can’t help them?

Have you seen the pictures? Are you reading the reports?

“Living like animals.” Snipers attacking hospitals. “Lord of the Flies.”

This is the United States of America, dammit. And we’re letting this happen in one of our cities?

What would have happened in a terrorist strike? Or in a disaster without warning? Where are our homeland security dollars going?

There are a handful of National Guard there; they’re all in Iraq. Ditto for the Army. Another handful — about 1400 per day for the next three days — are going in, according to Chertoff.

“Anarchy,” read the CNN headline earlier today.

This isn’t anarchy. This is chaos.

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Jeanne F says:

My husband and I are heartbroken for the victims of Katrina, but even more so we are disgusted with that poor excuse of a president! We are so quick to help foreign countries, but Mr. Bush and our government are dispicably apathetic in reacting to our fellow citizens and their immediate and basic needs. Why don’t some of the big corporations like pepsi and kraft and coke and I could go on forever with the list, start air dropping pallettes of water and gatorade for electrolites and baby formula and diapers and wipes? For crying out loud, feed these people, drop in some portable radios with batteries so they know that they have not been forgotten. They may be poor, but they are our poor and Mr. Bush you are responsible for taking care of and protecting them. You too big fat corporate America! This is a sin the way our government is handling this! We are in the Nw suburbs of chicago and if we can help shelter a few please email us.

September 1st, 2005 at 8:39 PM

Gnomic says:

This isn’t Homeland Security’s ball, its FEMA’s and our government’s. FEMA is inept, underfunded, and like the rest of the goobermint, bloated on your tax dollar.

The sad thing is that we have come to expect so little from our government while giving it so much. And it will never meet our expectations.

There is no reason why the government could not have air dropped food, water, medicine, lights, batteries, and other essentials within hours of the storm passing.

I can’t understand why I saw school busses in VA - every last one of them should be sent to get people out as fast as possible before diseases run rampent - because then the only solution is to seal the area off to stop the spread.

Settle in folks - its gonna be a bad ride.

September 1st, 2005 at 9:26 PM

Andrew says:

Just a nitpick: FEMA is now part of the DHS.

September 1st, 2005 at 9:28 PM

Gnomic says:

Its worse than you think

‘Absolute Vacuum of Authority’by NewsWeeks Joe Contreras

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9162009/site/newsweek/

September 1st, 2005 at 10:02 PM

Gnomic says:

Andrew,

You make a fair point, but FEMA has always been this bad. I used to work for a SEMA (State-level) and observed that I’d never seen so many people work so hard to cram an hours worth of work into an 8 hour day. The fact that they are part of DHS makes little difference - how many of these agencies have really changed for the better?

Here’s an idea: set service levels and if FEMA and DHS don’t meet them, they get dropped off in the middle of a disaster buck naked and get to experience being a victim.

A little more real accountability and we might have a real government.

September 1st, 2005 at 10:08 PM

badman says:

The problem here is that the people suffering there are POOR. That is their crime. If they were a part of the rich upper class, Bush and the appropriate organizations would be helping in no time. But as is the case with Bush in almost all matters, he doesn’t care about the poor or even the common folk. His interests are in the upper class and big corporations.
You can tell alot of a government by the way they treat their lower class citizens.
Anyone who voted for Bush is an idiot.

September 2nd, 2005 at 3:37 AM

Vince says:

I’m confused. Everybody is bashing Bush but what do you want him to do? These people were told to evacuate DAYS in advance. Did they? No. They decided to stay.

They have tried to air drop water from helicopters..it blew up when it hit the ground. People were trying to jump on them when they were delivering water, so they had to go higher.

Again, what exactly do you want Bush to do? And some corporations are giving $$ to the cause. Walmart just donated $15 Million today. I don’t know how many of the upper crust people have donated $$ to this disaster, but I heard at least 15-20 celebrities this morning giving at least a million a piece.

September 2nd, 2005 at 1:09 PM

Andrew says:

The people there *couldn’t* evacuate. The entire evac plan was based on people using their own vehicles. The folks left didn’t have that option, or were in no condition to leave.

What do I want Bush to do? How about admit that the federal government should have given the millions that state and local governments had begged for to shore up the levees, instead of telling them the money was needed for Iraq?

How about explaining where the billions we’ve spent for “homeland security” has gone, when this was a perfect example of what DHS and FEMA should be handling?

How about explaining why there was money to build a bridge to nowhere in Alaska at the request of a Republican senator, but not enough to prevent a disaster that he had been warned about for years?

How about explaining the incredible, inexcusable lack of federal response — as you said, we knew about Katrina DAYS in advance, yet there was nothing in place.

How about not lying, straight-faced, about conditions in New Orleans? Or about not forseeing this could have happened? EVERYONE know the levees were in danger.

How about once, just once, taking some responsibility for something?

September 2nd, 2005 at 1:17 PM

Vince says:

I see your point on a lot of this. But like you said this disaster had been warned about for years. Not just the last year or 2 or 4. It was warned about before he was in office. Why wasn’t it the governor’s fault back then. Or why didn’t President Clinton put some of the extra money he had toward fixing the levees since it was so important. Because there wasn’t a need back then, and there wasn’t a need when Bush got in office.

And how do you justify spending money on somthing that “could” happen. The last hurricane that had this effect on the area was what? 1967? You want to prepare for something that only happens once every 40 years or so? And why would it fall on his shoulders to prepare for it? He hasn’t been the President the last 40 years. Why didn’t someone else do it?
How exactly would you prevent this anyway? You can’t force the hurricane to go back to the ocean. You can build bigger levees, but that still wouldn’t help. The basic problem as far as NO goes is its below sea level. There isn’t anything you can do about that.

I agree. FEMA and all the other organizations should have reacted faster, but he doesn’t run those on a day to day basis. He has to run the whole country. Yes, he should allocate money to help the people in need, I agree 100%, but from the sounds of this page it sounds like everyone wants him to go down there and magically wave his hands and everything will be fixed. That can’t happen.

And how is this a Homeland Security problem? like Gnomic said, this is covered by FEMA, not Homeland Security. There aren’t any security risks here. The hurricane wasn’t created by terrorists or anybody else. Its an act of Nature.

September 2nd, 2005 at 3:18 PM

Gnomic says:

Jeanne,

I don’t think that Bush is clueless when it comes to domestic disasters - I think that he is clueless period. I think Micheal Moore’s film that showed him sitting there for 7 minutes waiting for someone to tell him what to do was the clearest example of this President understanding of his role. Until Rove of Cheany or Libby tell his what to do, he just doesn’t have a clue.

And I think this administration’s performance is a reflection of his “leadership.” Unless they can demonize someone to create an enemy, they don’t have a game plan.

September 5th, 2005 at 11:31 AM

Rod says:

I think there was a mishandling even before Katrina hit. Big governement has mislead the people in so many ways. Fema was designed as a safety net in times of disaster. Although the real disaster is how the money that is there for help is diverted to areas that were not even affected. It is the most disadvantaged that were the true victims of this disaster, and still are. I do not see a change though because with man there is greed, and with greed there is power, and with power there is control.

November 22nd, 2005 at 1:01 AM

Bright says:

RE: MY Immigration concern (for those who care to listen)

I have been TRYING for nearly five years to inform the INS/DHS about a man who, amongst other things, is a criminal, habitual drunk driver, has had at least five DUI’s (with injuries) + drug charges since 1999 when he “arrived” in the USA (I am only able to confirm five of these through 10/02); who has NOT shown up for court appearances, because he is now “in hiding” and not wanting to be found… by ME! He knows I’ll have his beHIND deported ~ because I will…and because I have the documents to prove the reasons why he SHOULD be deported!!

This man came to the USA in 1999 from the Netherlands. He moved there from South Africa in or around 1990, to escape facing the TRC (Truth & Reconciliation Committee) for HIS crimes against humanity. He married a woman there since that was the only way he could remain in NL…

This person is NOT of “good moral character” nor should he be permitted to become a citizen of our Great States of the USA … It is obvious to me that the INS/DHS doesn’t care ! I have sent emails and copies of letters & correspondence to several of the local INS offices (at their recommendation), yet they’ve done nothing!

Last known, he was in Illinois. I tried to obtain a divorce, but he refused to disclose his location to my attorney. He sure didn’t want to be found. Seems he was and still IS in hiding. I only know that he may now be somewhere in the IL/MO area. After attempting to blackmail and extort me (IN writing and to my attorney), he divorced me in Madison County IL. The grounds: Extreme mental cruelty! That’s the best part !! And, before the ink was even DRY … he remarried (so he may be permitted to stay in the USA). I heard this from this woman who phone me…presumably his present wife (??) She informed me that he became a “minister” (probably an online one, cause that’s about the only type of minister God would allow) … My own minister could not believe my words when I told him this…

His woman (wife??) also asked me WHY he kept running around on her…meeting women he met on the internet …. and going on drinking binges! He hasn’t changed! I suggested that she should cut her losses and kick him out. Obviously it didn’t happen, and I think he may have married her (or someone else)…Lord knows !

Sadly, it seems the government has no interest in removing this man, who, because of his habitual drunkenness WILL kill someone one day. He never did show up in court in CT or NY in 2002 for his MVA with injuries to the woman he hit! He had two arrests in two days! What’s wrong with this picture??

Did I mention he tried to blackmail and EXTORT me ? Yes ~ he did this IN writing and to my attorney !! You heard me right ! We still have the emails…BUT, I guess those in charge don’t care enough about the possibility that his next VICTIM(s) could be a member of their family. He’s a creep & a criminal!

I am M.A.D.D. Perhaps you should be too! I’ve come to the realization that in time, he just may become a citizen. This too is S.A.D.D. ! May God have Mercy on those in his path !

May 16th, 2006 at 1:01 AM

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