Atheism killed millions? Doubtful

Published 11/21/06

In an opinion piece in the Christian Science Monitor, Dinesh D’Souza argues that — to quote the headline — “Atheism, not religion, is the real force behind the mass murders of history.”

His logic: That although events like the Inquisition and the Crusades killed a lot of people,

they are minuscule compared with the death tolls produced by the atheist despotisms of the 20th century. In the name of creating their version of a religion-free utopia, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong produced the kind of mass slaughter that no Inquisitor could possibly match.

It’s time for a quick strike by the logic police.

D’Souza is flat-out wrong in his assertion for an obvious reason. While far more people have been killed for non-religious reasons (e.g., in WW II), no one was claiming a religious reason for killing them.

In the Inquisition and the Crusades, however, religious extremists killed (or ordered killed) other people because those other people didn’t share the same religious views.

D’Souza makes an unfounded logical leap. If someone is killed for a reason other than religion, he attributes that death to Atheism. So the people Bonnie and Clyde killed were victims of Atheism, by his view.

But Bonnie and Clyde didn’t kill anyone because those people weren’t Atheists. They killed the people to take their money. In contrast, the people killed by order of the Church were murdered in the name of religion.

D’Souza is effectively saying that, if religion is not a motive in a killing, he will arbitrarily assign the motive to Atheism. Thus, “Atheism, not religion, is the real force behind the mass murders of history.”

Sorry, sir, it doesn’t work that way.

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JazePentz says:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t religion supposed to teach people how to live peaceful, meaningful lives? Even the Koran doesn’t condone violence like some of these Muslim extremists are brainwashed to think. I know more people who are peaceful who are atheists then I do who are of any particular religous faith. Religons are always trying to push their beliefs on others. I used to be a devout Christian and one of the things that I could never understand was that if God gave all people “free will,” then why would he supposedly want Christians to take it away by trying to convert other people to Christianity? It is a pretty big contradiction. People need to understand that your religous beliefs should be important to you and you alone. It is no business of anyone else. Fighting over it is ridiculous. It is history repeating itself in the worst of ways. Fighting and killing are not the answer.

November 22nd, 2006 at 5:09 AM

Jason says:

Ummm…who says Hitler was an Atheist? Anti-Semite, yes. As far as I know he was a Protestant. I don’t know what denomination, but he certainly wasn’t an Atheist.

November 30th, 2006 at 5:18 PM

gnomic says:

Religion isn’t “supposed” to teach anything. Religion is a matter of faith and cannot be proved right or wrong. If you think your supreme being is a muffin or that blue rocks speak the truth - you are free to worship accordingly. The crap that Falwell and his ilk spew have nothing to do with the words of Jesus Crist, but they make a good living off it. The KKK has its own church. If religions are based on thier followers, most religions are laid low indeed.

Humans as a species want to tell each other how to live and are threatened by anything different. They use religion to propogate thier predujices.

And it could be that God want’s us to occationally sacrifice our kids (yes, its in the Bible) or his will send bears to tear apart or kids for making fun of a holy man (that too). Logic has little to do with it. And what we want of believe to be True just doesn’t matter if thier is one or more supreme beings.

And fighting and killing are an answer - not one you like - but one that most definately ends the discussion. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean that God doesn’t like it. Maybe we are His first person shoter game.

December 3rd, 2006 at 7:43 PM

Isaac Amirian says:

The point is that if religion is truly to blame for so many of society’s problems, then its removal would be, in general, a positive thing morally for a society or nation. D’Souza’s article simply points out that that clearly hasn’t been the case since atheism was introduced as a cultural force fairly recently into world history. Political and social systems with an atheistic worldview have been responsible for the most horrific crimes against humanity ever seen, and in a relatively short time.
Atheists commonly want to bicker about the superiorty of their worldview just the same as religious people do, in fact they tend to be more forceful and stubborn about it these days….but if everyone was objective and used logic and reason, we’d all admit that people claiming a peaceful faith, like Christianity, who commit atrocities, like the Crusades, are doing so in spite of the teachings of Christ, and not because of them. With the evidence we now have, we’d also admit that banishing religion tends to make a society more violent.

PS Gnomis it completely wrong about “God wants us to occasionally sacrifice our kids”, and is totally butchering the passages vaguely referenced to, as is usually the case in these web spats about religion. No one really wants to be educated about the Bible.
Hitler’s personal religion was in fact humanist and new-age spirituality. Not officially an atheist, but personally opposed to the Bible and even the concept of morality.

December 11th, 2006 at 3:16 PM

Thomas J says:

Am not an Athiest (Yet) But more and more am a confirmed Agonostic
I believe Religious conflict started with Cain & Able & has been going
on ever since..People cling to religion as a whipping boy and/or some
place to lay the blame for all their own shortcomings

December 14th, 2006 at 10:38 PM

Becky says:

Religions were created by the dishonest to control the simple and superstitious, take their money and get a free ride. I highly advise those with doubts to read The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine. You can google it free and you will never think the same again. Thankfully, more and more people are being to use their ability to reason with facts and leave blind faith and pious stupidity to the foolish.

July 11th, 2008 at 12:17 AM

Admiral says:

I agree with Becky.

July 11th, 2008 at 1:06 PM

Nate says:

How are you guys (re: Becky and Admiral) able to label so generically? Are you willing to assert that this is the ONLY reason that religion was created? I have read The Age of Reason, found it very mentally entertaining, and am still a devout Christian. You should read Orthodoxy by G.K. Chesterton. I am willing to assert that people choose their faith-based allegiances for a myriad of reasons and that to say that it is for one specific reason that blankets all others is the truest sign of ignorance and arrogance.

July 18th, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Becky says:

Most people don’t choose their religions. It is chosen for them before they are born by their parents. Who wants to think their parents could be wrong or the culture into which they were born and raised? Few ever question or entertain they are wrong. We can look at muslims, mormons, JWs and the other thousands of denominations and see they are wrong and proclaim our god is the true god and we are right. Those people are just like most of the population in that they trust their parents and their cultures!!!!

Aside from that, any god that would condone the rape of women and little girls is not god. If it is I still will not serve such a monster. The OT is filled to the overflowing brim with slaughter, theft, enslavement and brutal rape. It is pure filth. I suggest you read The Dark Side of Christian History by Helen Ellerbee for a crystal clear and ugly picture of your religion.

You are the truest sign of pious stupidity I have already mentioned. Thank you for the demonstration. It is one of the best I have seen.

July 18th, 2008 at 10:54 PM

Gary says:

Not one person or any creature has been killed or injured in the name of or because of atheism. The usual fundamentalist’s argument runs like this. Stalin was an Atheist and he killed countless people ergo Atheist are mindless evil killers. How fundies keep repeating this vacuous attack on non theism is beyond reason. Stalin also had a mustache therefore using the cerebral fundamentalist’s logic all persons with mustaches are mindless evil killers.

August 29th, 2008 at 10:35 AM

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