UCLA cops attack student, threaten others

Published 11/16/06

At UCLA, campus police are apparently trained to use their tasers not as a non-lethal alternative to a firearm, but simply as a tool to make people comply with their instructions — and as a way to deal with people who question what they’re doing.

In this case, officers from the University of California Police Department walked around UCLA’s Powell Library computer lab, demanding to see ID from “random” students. One of those was 23-year-old Mostafa Tabatabainejad, 23, who did not have ID. The officers demanded he leave. According to witnesses, Tabatabainejad picked his stuff up and began walking to the door. When one of the officers pushed him, he told the officer to “Get your hands off me.”

Video of the incident, which was taken by a student with a camera phone, picks up just before “Get your hands off me.”

For yelling at the officers, Tabatabainejad was then tasered — he screams and collapses to the floor. The cops then demand that he get up. Tabatabainejad evidently refuses, quite possibly because he jsut has 40,000 to 50,000 volts shot through him.

And while he was laying on the floor, the cops shoot him again.

After the officers had tasered this unarmed man who had collapsed on the floor, other students rose to his defense. The cops then threatened them. Per the UCLA Daily Bruin:

As the student and the officers were struggling, bystanders repeatedly asked the cops to stop, and at one point officers told the gathered crowd to stand back and threatened to use a Taser on anyone who got too close.

Laila Gordy, a fourth-year economics student who was present in the library during the incident, said police officers threatened to shoot her with a Taser when she asked an officer for his name and his badge number.

The officers then dragged Tabatabainejad out of the library, but because he had gone limp (either by choice or because of the tasering) they decided to taser him again. And again. Each time you can hear him screaming.

Once again: Tabatabainejad was unarmed and did not threaten the officers or anyone else. His only “crime” was not having an ID on him and not getting out of the library fast enough.

He was arrested and charged with resisting and obstructing a police officer, and later released on his own recognizance.

Here’s hoping he sues the pants off UCLA and the UCPD, and that those cops end up working mall security somewhere.

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The Fray


Leland says:

Hey Andrew, the way I read it, the Tasee may have asked for it. From your link to the LA Times:

—QUOTING LA TIMES—
After repeated requests, the officer left and returned with campus police, who asked
Tabatabainejad to leave “multiple times,” according to a statement by the UCLA Police Department.

“He continued to refuse,” the statement said. “As the officers attempted to escort him out, he went limp and continued to refuse to cooperate with officers or leave the building.”

Witnesses disputed that account, saying that when campus police arrived, Tabatabainejad had begun to walk toward the door with his backpack. When an officer approached him and grabbed his arm, the witnesses said, Tabatabainejad told the officer to let go, yelling “Get off me” several times.

“Tabatabainejad encouraged library patrons to join his resistance,” police said. “The officers deemed it necessary to use the Taser.”

Officers stunned Tabatabainejad, causing him to fall to the floor.
—END QUOTE—

The link to the Daily Bruin pretty much says the same thing.

I’ll bet you dollars to donuts there is something in the student rule book about having to have your ID on you and present it to use the university facilities. I know there was back in the 70s when I did the college thing.

First off, Tabatabainejad was being an ass for refusing to provide ID to the security guard who’s only trying to make sure that he’s authorized to use the computer at that time of the day. He scored even higher on the asshole scale for refusing to leave when asked to.

Unless you’ve been living under a rock for most of your life almost everyone in this country knows if a police officer orders you to stop and present ID and you continue to walk away, something bad is going to happen to you. That is the way it is. Whether or not he needed Tasing is up to a review board.

Watching the video was interesting. All the wana-be lawyers demanding that the University Police drop what they’re doing and turn over their name, rank and badge numbers while they were going best two out of three falls with Tabatabainejad will be lucky they aren’t charged with interference.

After Tabatabainejad was Tased the first time, he became even more belligerent and louder. Obviously, Tabatabainejad was a slow learner. He got it again and became even louder and more abusive. After that it became a simple test of wills.

When I was growing up we called what happened to Tabatabainejad a life lesson. Today there will probably be a law suit.

In my day there was some (not much, but a little) common sense and respect left for law enforcement and the rules. Now it seems like today’s youth are taught to question all authority no matter what the circumstances or consequences. No wonder they’re getting Tased.

I wonder if it ever crossed Tabatabainejad’s mind that those rules are in place to protect the library assets for his use and to protect him from anyone that might have bad things in store for the library.

Andrew, you and I both know that situation escalated well beyond the point there was anyway he was going to leave the police officer’s presence without identifying himself. All by itself, his refusal to identify himself and refusal to leave was probable cause to arrest him for trespassing.

Would you feel better if they bludgeoned him into submission with night sticks, landing him in intensive care with permanent brain damage? Tasing was the way to go. He’s alive, well, alert and ready to sue.

P.S. Got a chuckle out of his reference to the Patriot Act. Not even close, but good for a chuckle.

November 16th, 2006 at 6:35 PM

bad man says:

There’s always two sides to every story. I initially was outraged upon reading the post, but once getting into the facts, would have to say the guy was an a$$. The ‘police’ definitely overreacted as they too often do, but they definitely had a case and the guy was definitely asking for a butt kicking.

November 17th, 2006 at 1:22 AM

toomuch says:

no matter how much of an a$$ that guy was however, it still doesn’t change the fact that the police were way out of line in tasering the guy like 6 or 7 times. Even once is overreacting considering the offence- but would have been understandable- but six times? And how the hell are you supposed to be able to get up after being tasered? That is why the police deserve all the bad rap the receive. Why can’t four policemen drag a 150 pound man out of the library and then charge him? Tasering crosses the line for someone who was non violent and non criminal.
I wonder if they would have tasered the guy that many times if he were a belligerent white male- or female.

November 17th, 2006 at 9:34 AM

Andrew says:

One of the things the cops were clear to point out was that Tabatabainejad was uncooperative — he went limp. They tasered him (repeatedly) for refusing to get up.

How many times have you seen videos of protesters being arrested — protesters who go limp and refused to be more than dead weight? Two cops grab said protester under the arms and lift him (or her) into the paddy wagon. Simple.

So you’re not going to convince me that the guy’s going limp was any excuse to taser him.

Tabatabainejad posed no threat. He put no one in danger. Was he a jerk? Quite possibly. But I hate to think we’ve reached the point where we allow police to use violence against people simply because they’re jerks. For one thing, most Yankee fans wouldn’t get halfway down their blocks. ;-)

November 17th, 2006 at 10:02 AM

JazePentz says:

Just thought that I would add something my dad heard on the radio…… The tazer that these cops were using was not a full 50,000 volt tazer. It was only about a third that from what he heard. I’m sure it still hurts like hell but I have seen this video a few times and I have to agree with Leland. This guy is lucky he wasn’t beaten half to death considering that this is an LA campus. The restraint that they used not to beat the stuffing out of this guy amazes me! If I was a cop I wouldn’t have hesitated to whip out the ASP and knock this guy around for a little bit. The guy was incorrigable(spell check please.) Anyone who has to be told repeatedly to calm down by a police officer is an idiot. I also must state that I find it very upseting that everytime a person who is not white has police force used against them, they turn it into a racial issue. This is becoming such a problem and is making it to where the police are not able to do their jobs properly. I am the furthest thing from a racist and apologize if this statement has offended anyone. I just find it funny how people can bitch all the time about wanting to be treated equal (as they should be,) but can’t take punishment equally with the rest of the world. Think about if this guy pulled that $#!* in Iran or Pakistan. He would probably be DEAD. He wouldn’t have gotten tazed, he would have gotten caned or stoned ( not the good kind.)Our police have many, many policies that prevent them from doing unessecary harm. This guy will live. He will not be permanently harmed from this. He should thank his lucky stars.

November 17th, 2006 at 8:37 PM

gnomic says:

The guy was a jerk, but tasering him? Way over the line.

Anyone old enough to remember Kent State?

November 18th, 2006 at 12:40 AM

Leland says:

I am. And if you are, then you should understand the difference.

November 18th, 2006 at 2:56 PM

Emily says:

Yeah, the difference is the jack-booted UCPD chicken shits weren’t safely 50 yards away with rifles.

November 18th, 2006 at 5:11 PM

badman says:

JazePentz- I am assuming you are not a minority or have never been victimized. Anyone who is a minority who has been or knows someone who has been victimized can’t help but wonder if race had anything to do with it. I agree the student was being uncooperative, but he has the right to protest what he thought was racial profiling and as long as he posed no danger, deserved to be treated non violently. Do we have to unconditionally submit to what officers say just because we are afraid they might taser us? That would only feed the power trip many cops are already on. If this is how police act in a public place in front of tens of students, imagine how much worse it would be when they know there are no witnesses and they are in a private discreet place. It is true that law enforcement is far worse in some other countries, but their low standards are not our yardstick.

November 19th, 2006 at 12:39 AM

JazePentz says:

Badman- I am half Native American and if I wanted to pull that card, I could tell you of true injustices far greater than any other minorities have faced in this country. I myself have experienced police brutality that actually landed me in the hospital (alcohol trying to prove itself once again.) I have since sobered up, and have looked at life from a broader prospective. When I made the comment I made I forgot to include the part that, (at least in California,) whenever you see something on the news about police brutality, it is always someone who is a minority. You hardly ever see white people on the news getting beat down by cops. I know that it happens everyday and I am not trying to defend the actions of officers who are in the wrong. I am simply saying that the media doesn’t portray that aspect because, truthfully, White people are now the true minority in this country. I am half Irish as well and the fact that white people are a minority (at least in California,) doesn’t bother me in the least. What bothers me is the fact that the media is further segregating the American people by showing so-called “injustices” and portraying the police as the bad guys when they are doing the best job they can. I am not saying that the police can’t be racist, but to assume that all police have racial motivations is ignorant. People always want to pull the race card because they cannot deal with the fact that they were wrong. So instead of put the blame on themselves, they put it on the police the only way they can. To be quite honest, I have done A LOT of stupid, illegal, $#!* in my life and if caught, would have deserved a beating had I received one. I would not have gone to the media and tried to portray myself as some sort of martyr. These people think that they are helping the racial problems in our country,but as I stated before, they are only splitting us farther apart.

November 19th, 2006 at 5:31 PM

gnomic says:

The similarity is a government that is abusing its citizens. I’ve got no problem with the cops holding the kid overnight to teach him a lesson, but unless the kid took a swing at the cop, a taser is way out of line as would be hitting him with a club.

What ever happened to allowing kids to be just a little bit stupid and not having to send them to jail?

We’re talking about a kid in a library without an ID. I worked for a University for 5 years; lots of kids forgot thier IDs. And you do not need your ID to be in *any* state university library as they are open to the public.

November 19th, 2006 at 8:46 PM

gnomic says:

More jackboot stories:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/11/18/houston-police-trample-pr_n_34427.html

This is America folks. And this Administration is destroying it more effectively than any terrorists could do. When the President and VP get up and defend torture and idnore the rule of law, thier “leadership” results in this kind of behaviors.

November 19th, 2006 at 9:54 PM

JazePentz says:

Does anyone remember when they were younger and did something wrong, the first time, your parents just yell and tell you not to do it. The next time, they give you a timeout, and hope that you learn from that. If you were to do the same thing again and get caught, you would most likely get a spanking. Our country has been yelling at people and handing out timeouts for hundreds of years. People are not learning. The police are in the wrong sometimes, and sometimes they are abusive, just like some parents. If we keep making it harder for police to use force to get someone to comply with the law, then how can we expect them to protect us? If we take away their ability to use their guns, mace, batons, and tasers, we efftively turn them into security guards. Do you want to see cops only armed with their flashlights? They couldn’t calm him down, they couldn’t shoot him, they could have maced him, but they chose to taze him, and I believe that it was the least painful way to subdue him. The effects of the tazer basically wear off within a few minutes where as macing him would have hurt for a few hours. If they had beaten him, he could have lifetime injuries. They used the best judgment in the short time alotted. I will admit that cops do get carried away on quite a few occasions, but who doesn’t?

November 19th, 2006 at 10:55 PM

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