On healthcare

Published 9/30/07

So I’m learning first hand what a frakking mess the American health-insurance situation is. And I’m not just talking about “Bush to poor kids: Drop dead.”

My wife and I are both professionals, and both capable of easily earning in the range of $30,000 to $50,000 per year in freelance and part time work, which is what we’d both prefer to do. But we can’t. We couldn’t afford the health insurance. You would think that a household income of $80,000 a year would be more than enough, but it isn’t.

Right now we get our insurance through COBRA — I’m on the same plan I was on when I was working for the Roanoke Times, but I pay the full cost. That’s about $1300.00 per month for my family — more than my mortgage. And that’s under a group health plan.

What that means is that one or both of us will have to get a job in an office simply to get cheap health insurance. Because when COBRA runs out, trying to get insurance that would cover my wife’s high blood pressure and Sam’s growth hormone will be impossible. (And if not impossible, prohibitively expensive.

So an office it is.

Imagine if we weren’t able to make that kind of money, or didn’t have the skills to work at a job that paid benefits. (Attention Wal-Mart customers!) We would be uninsured. If I broke my leg, or my wife had a serious illness, we would probably go bankrupt, as many people have.

Something is wrong with this picture.

 

Pricing structures

Of course, one reason health insurance costs so much is that health care costs so much. Take drugs.

While waiting for COBRA to kick in, I went to fill a script at Walgreens for a generic medication. It cost $45.00. I pointed out that the same meds cost $4.00 at Wal-Mart and Target. (This is old news, that different pharmacies charge way different prices for the same meds. The New York Times wrote about the problem in 1897.)

Anyway, the pharmacist at Walgreens said those stores must have a different deal with the drug manufacturer. I was going to get reimbursed by my insurance company, so I didn’t worry. But it got me thinking.

Even with the clout that Wal-Mart has, it couldn’t get the drug manufacturers to sell their products at a loss. So even with a retail price of $4.00, the drug companies are making money, although obviously not as much as they are from Walgreens’ suckers customers.

Therefore, the price being paid by insurance companies (and people without insurance who shop at Walgreens) is outrageous.

Certainly they have the right to charge what the traffic will bear. But the “traffic” in this case in the insurance companies. They’re paying that much, and they’re passing that cost on to us in the form of outrageous premiums.

It’s time for the traffic to stop bearing the weight of those profits.

 

Message time

I am all for the pharmaceutical industry making profits, even huge profits. They invest a ton of money coming up with chemicals that help us live longer. Let ‘em get filthy rich. But there’s a line somewhere beyond which their profits are bad for the country as a whole, where they’re able to get away with a bit too much.

Capitalism says that prices are regulated by the buyers. In this case, we’re not talking about one kind of widget, but of an entire industry. And it’s time for the buyers to push back. Government in this country is us.

Perhaps healthcare reform is about us telling the drug companies that We the Traffic don’t feel like bearing their costs any more. That absurd drug prices lead to absurd premiums, which leads to people being unable to get basic health care. Sick people aren’t good for the country. The millions of man-hours lost means labor lost, productivity lost, taxes lost. It’s an ebbing tide that’s lowering all our boats.

If the only way to get the message to the pharmaceutical companies is to get the government to step in, then so be it. The problem is widespread enough that the government should step in.

I have health insurance — expensive insurance, but insurance nonetheless. But too many others don’t, and that’s intolerable.

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Jeff says:

Andrew:

Why in the world are you paying for health insurance under COBRA? That is usually, hands down, the most expensive way to get coverage (I’ve been there).

Unless you have some sort of pre-existing condition that is going to throw you WAYYY off the charts (which existed BEFORE you had health coverage at the newspaper)… you should be able to get a family plan for less. Now, it might not be life-altering in terms of savings, but it should be enough to matter at least a little.

For example (and by doing a little guessing about your family’s birthdates), Aetna and Anthem in your area have plans that will cover all of your for as little as $176 (granted, it’s a super high deductible)… but there are DOZENS of plans available with a variety of costs and deductibles. Try http://www.ehealthinsurance.com just to take a look.

Good luck!

~Jeff

October 1st, 2007 at 7:36 AM

Gnomic says:

Andrew,

What Jeff said!!! Last time I loooked Fortis Health Insurance had a great plan for people between jobs.

October 1st, 2007 at 9:21 AM

Gnomic says:

BTW, your wifes HBP meds should cost next to nothing. If she’s on the lastest and greatest drug - studies shopw it to be less effective that they generics that have been out for 20 years. HGH should be cheap too. Ask your DR to work with you; they can find cheaper alternatives in almost all cases.

October 1st, 2007 at 9:41 AM

Andrew says:

Unfortunately, there are pre-existing conditions — notably Sam’s growth hormone treatments. We’re basically uninsurable because of that. (Ditto my wife’s blood pressure.)

October 1st, 2007 at 9:53 AM

Gnomic says:

Your wife shouldn’t be ruled out for HBP as long as its manageable with meds. Its far to common a condition. Your son’s condition also isn’t critical - just expensive to treat. You should be elgible for S-CHIP if the Asshole-inchief does cut it.( Appearently our kids are too expensive to care for, but the war is a bargin to kill ‘em off. NITWIT!)

October 1st, 2007 at 10:22 AM

MsElenaeous says:

Andrew, we’re in the same predicament. My daughter is considered “uninsurable” even though nary a penny has been spent on her condition. I’ve been an advocate on even buying into plans that the state or feds could get cheaper. Freelancing doesn’t bring in a lot of money and I’m thankful for FAMIS. My girl is on it and the doctors have been wonderful. My son has BC with us even though according to the guidelines I could easily have him on FAMIS too. That’s not what I’m looking for. And if BC would insure my girl at a reasonable price I wouldn’t have even applied. I think “uninsurable” kids should automatically be allowed into FAMIS no matter what the parents make. And if they make too much, let them buy into it.

October 1st, 2007 at 2:49 PM

Md Mama says:

My husband and I are in the same boat. My husband is an ex-Cox Media employee who has been self-employed with a Marketing & Design business and other freelance ventures for 3 yrs. We had insurance thru COBRA with Cox for 18 months which we paid almost $800 a month for. After it expired, we attempted to take on an insurance policy for our family of 5, which included dental. It was close to $900 a month. When my daughter started college, it had to go. I work full time for a group of mental health professionals, but they are a small business and cannot afford to pay me any benefits. I have looked for other employment so we could get benefits, but have to ask for more money to cover having benefits. I have had no success. In the meantime, we have gotten insurance just for our kids, 2 in college and one in high school. This leaves hubby and I high and dry. So much for the Great American way! It really stinks it has to be this way.

October 1st, 2007 at 5:49 PM

George Van Antwerp says:

I just blogged about this the other day. Same issue happened to me. Good or bad, I know too much after working in the industry so I was fairly upset to see that I was going to get ripped off by the pharmacy just because my COBRA wasn’t set up yet.

Now, I have since heard from my TPA that says the payor will consider this a legitimate reason to reimburse me for my total out-of-pocket versus simply their negotiated rate.

BTW - It’s not the pharma companies at fault around generics. They charge pennies per pill. The retailers make all the money here. Different on brand drugs, but there is much less pricing variance.

http://patientadvocate.wordpress.com/2007/09/24/paper-claims-are-you-kidding-me/

October 2nd, 2007 at 8:59 AM

Troy says:

It’s interesting that Heath Care costs are going up each year. I went to the doctor the same number of times this year as I did that last as I did the year before. Now granted, I’ve not had a major surgery or anything of the sort but the “cost” certainly isn’t going up. I suspect that’s the same deal with a large group of people. I also suspect the only ‘cost’ that’s going up it the executives salary…..

October 2nd, 2007 at 9:25 AM

Jeff says:

As a former staffer at a large insurance company, it is no lie that the insurance company execs salaries are going up.

Never forget that insurance companies are BUSINESSES… but that they base their pricing and reimbursements on what they negotiate with the PROVIDERS (aka the doctors, etc). The insurance company may disagree with the individual physician (they have their own team of healthcare professionals) regarding treatments - but the pricing is a direct result of that physician’s negotiation with the insurance company (or, if they’re part of a group, like a hospital, the hospital’s negotiation).

So while the insurance company isn’t necessarily AGAINST increases in costs, they’re not the sole party to blame in increased expense.

Not to mention the fact that individuals need to take more direct responsibility for their own costs and care. In my 2 years with the insurer, there were a LOT of stories about people who simply don’t take care of themselves and then are shocked when it costs a small fortune to “fix” them.

October 2nd, 2007 at 9:34 AM

LizM says:

NOW is the time to get that outside health insurance. While you are still on COBRA you fall under a government rule about pre-existing conditions. As long as you have “credible coverage”, not some fly-by-night policy, and do not have more than a 60 day break in coverage - the time you have the credible coverage counts towards the pre-existing condition clause.

In other words, Fortis or a BCBS individual policy should take the coverage you had with the newspaper as credit towards their time limits. If the policy has a 2 year waiting period and you had continuous coverage for that long you don’t have to wait for coverage with the new policy. Its part of the HIPPA act and is designed to ensure people can switch jobs without being penalized by health coverage.

Ok, I’m going to go try to forget I still remember all that stuff from my time in a health insurance company marketing cube farm. (fights off nervous twitch that wants to return at the thought)

October 2nd, 2007 at 11:48 AM

greyrat says:

Heh. We make more that 100,000 combined, and we have company coverage, but we still have to keep $5000 laying around to cover the deductible on the health insurance plan we have. Do you think I’m going to let the kids play sports in school? Sadly, I have to think about saying no.

And let’s not even talk about dental, where I’m still reeling from two sets of braces and some oral surgery to go with it. I’m not getting a much needed bridge for myself in order to pay for the kids teeth. After all, they’ll need them longer than I’ll need mine.

And then there’s vision that we don’t even TRY to do through the company coverage.

AND WE’RE WELL OFF!!!

October 2nd, 2007 at 2:58 PM

Steve M says:

Can um … *anybody* afford full coverage in the US outside the insanely rich?

October 3rd, 2007 at 7:33 AM

Kirsten says:

Regarding the negotiating that goes on between the insurers and the care providers: it is NOT the doctors who have the upper hand in those negotiations. Care providers are held hostage by the threat of not being listed in the provider directory, and the prospect of having no patients. You are basically told: Yup we paid you $75 for that physical last year, but this year it’s really only worth $55, take it or leave it.
So now you get why the office visit is 5 minutes.
(must make more widgets)

October 3rd, 2007 at 9:28 PM

Jeff says:

Well, Kirsten… if doctors were only negotiating by themselves, you’d be correct.

But they’re part of much LARGER groups (such as hospital and provider conglomerates) which DO have negotiating power. In fact, you’ll hear about how your local hospital first won’t accept x insurance company, and then, a few weeks later, they do.

It’s a game between the large provider groups and the insurance companies.

Again, however, remember that insurance companies aren’t your FRIEND. They are there to make money and protect their interests. They’re legally gambling with you… and you’re gambling with them.

October 3rd, 2007 at 10:27 PM

Gnomic says:

And the house always wins.

October 4th, 2007 at 1:51 PM

MsElenaeous says:

Well, I just got my yearly love letter from Anthem. A 25% premium increase! I didn’t submit one single bill last year. I am pure profit to them. My policy is really lousy too, doesn’t cover any well visits, actually doesn’t cover much. I think it’s time I lost some weight and shopped around for a better carrier.

October 4th, 2007 at 3:49 PM

Mary says:

My daughter just turned 18 - and I tried to get her a private plan because she will be off my work plan soon - we’ve had BCBS for 16 years so I thought I’d apply with them - she was denied for coverage. I didn’t think that was possible since we’ve never been without insurance but they denied her because of her pre-existing condition (open-angle glacouma since birth). The COBRA and CHIP plans are even so much money.

January 20th, 2008 at 9:57 AM

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