Gnomic says:

It just show s how dumb or deluded (or both) people are about what science can and can’t prove. Science cannot prove the existant or non-existance of God. Religion is based on faith, , not reason (obviously). They do not mix - for good reason.

This debacle (not a debate) comes from th fundementalist’s need to create enemies, claim to be pursecuted, and differentiate themselves. Like abortion and stem cells - issues that the Bible does not clearly address - it gives a group of people who have sad, pathetic lives meaning. Which is fine - This is America and you have the right to believe any damn fool thing you want. The line is drawn at teaching nonsence in the public school system. If you want to teach your kids stupid sh*t, enroll them in a madrassa or other religious school, or muster teach them to be narrow mindless clones at home school. Or move to Kansas where the whole state edumacation systim has decided to be stupid.

Just don’t peddle your BS to my kids.

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Richard says:

Amen (pardon my theobabble), Gnomic.

Religion runs into intellectual trouble when it crosses the line between faith and reason — that is, when it makes claims that are testable, such as the age of the universe, the efficacy of prayer, the origin of species, or well-documented world history. When it doesn’t cross the line, the doctrine is mere deism (i.e., that a god created the universe then let it run off on its own), which adds nothing to human knowledge. When it does cross the line (theism), one can readily prove that an intervening personal god does not exist. Simply put, the world behaves as if there were no god.

So today in America, we are being led by people whose “moral principles” are based on an ancient book (as edited by King James) that gives accounts of a pastoral/tribal society in the Middle East. We have a president whose imaginary friend told him to invade Iraq, relentless efforts to teach creationism in public schools, CNN specials on faith and politics … and the governor of Georgia praying for rain.

Welcome to life under the American Taliban. Lord have mercy!

gnomic says:

Nothing to pardon. Americans are entitled to their faith no matter who agrees or disagrees with it. The line gets crossed when these ignorant and deluded people think they they are somehow right and attempt to force their stupid ideas on others under the guise of teaching science. Don’t like science and want your kids to remain as stupid and ignorant as you - home school them or move to Kansas. This way employers can verify that your education is woefully lacking and your can get that job flipping burgers that you set them up for and you can live out your golden years bitching how its the liberals fault while taking all the drugs created by scientist to extend your worthless and pathetic life so you don’t actually have to face the ruthless god your twisted religious has created.

Now THAT’S theobable, Richard! (as well as a really bad run on sentence)

Leland says:

What a great write up! I’m going to pass it along.