Skeptic mag embarrasses Ben Stein

Published 5/25/08

With little fanfare, Skeptic magazine has thoroughly debunked Ben Stein’s anti-science propaganda film, “Expelled,” which purports to expose that educators across the land are being attacked for being creationists.

There are, in fact, several articles on the subject of “Expelled,” and they share a common theme: Showing how the filmmakers, including Stein, were forced to resort to a variety of distortions and, basically, outright lies to make their points.

For example, there’s the case of one Guillermo Gonzalez, who the films claims was denied tenure at Iowa State University for being a creationist. But, Skeptic points out

…filmmakers neglect to bring up the fact that in all his years at Iowa State Gonzalez had only brought in only a tiny amount of grant money when compared to the funding brought in by his colleagues. Nor do they mention the fact that Gonzalez failed to mentor a single one of his students at Iowa State through to their Ph.D. Nor does it tell viewers that while initially his publication record was terrific, during his years at Iowa State, it had significantly dropped.

That kind of “forgetting to mention the salient facts” is typical of creationists.

For example, in Caroline Crocker’s case, she claimed that “[My supervisor] said ‘nonetheless you have to be disciplined’, and I lost my job” at either George Mason University or Northern Virginia Community College (it’s not clear which she’s referring to). Skeptic, however, puts her claim in perspective:

Although in interviews and trailers for Expelled Dr. Crocker and her documentary host Ben Stein repeatedly claim she “lost her job,” the facts show that, less dramatically, her contracts at both GMU and NVCC were allowed to continue through their natural terms and were simply not renewed. Although this indeed must have been disappointing for Dr. Crocker, it is certainly not uncommon: about 70 percent of instructional faculty members at U.S. universities work on term contracts, many as “visiting” or “adjunct” professors as Dr. Crocker was, without any long-term guarantees.

In fact, the magazine points out, students in her cell biology classes at GMU had complained about Crocker because she was teaching nonsense, and they knew it — this was reported in a Washington Post story about her.

For instance, in the Washington Post article Crocker is described as initially telling the reporter she would discuss “the strengths and weaknesses of evolution,” then proceeding to unleash on her NCVV students a barrage of Creationist talking points. Finally, following the reporter’s remark at the end of the lecture that she did not introduce any existing evidence in favor of evolution, Crocker volunteered that she doesn’t believe there is much, and that she doesn’t think it is necessary to teach any at all.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: When you have to distort facts (or simply make them up) to support your argument, there’s something seriously wrong with your argument in the first place.

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gnomic says:

I don’t agree with eSkeptic’s arguments. They seem to point out the lies that these IDiots tell. So what? Their lies and stupidity are a sideshow to the facts of the main point. This seems to follow the GOP tactic of discredit the person and assume the person’s argument is discredited. The correct way to deal with the big lie of Idiotic Design is to deal with it directly. You can’t stop stupid people from believing stupid things. Its not only a natural law, its an American right. People are free to worship the tooth ferry and the easter bunny if the so wish. They just aren’t allowed to teach their stupidity in public schools. Trying to dress up stupidity as science means that it has to pass scientific tests. IDiot design can’t pass the most basic of scientific tests: It can’t be disproven. Name one stupid assertion of Idiot Design that, if disproven, discredits the theory. Since the assertions are all wrong (my favorite stupidity being irreducible complexity which is wrong on both logic and fact), the IDiots are willing to base their so-called theory on any assertions.

Stay the hell outta my science and I’ll stay the hell out of your church.

May 25th, 2008 at 11:09 PM

gnomic says:

And on an unrelated note - Ben Stein has many stupid arguments: http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/05/memo-to-ben-stein-efficiency.php

We need to turn coal into oil into gasoline, to use nuclear power wherever we can, and to brush aside the concerns of the beautiful people who live on coastal pastures (like me). And we need to drill on the continental shelf, even near where movie stars live. This must be done, on an emergency basis. If we keep acting as if the landscape were more important than human life, we will make ourselves the serfs of the oil producers and eventually reduce our country to poverty and anarchy.

Apparently, he doesn’t believe in science either. Over 1400 scientists pointed out that global warming is happening, is bad, and is a direct result of burning things like coal and oil. Perhaps Ben should go bad to writing speeches for Idiots and crooks. Bush could certainly use someone who can write small words for small minds.

May 25th, 2008 at 11:49 PM

Admiral says:

“Stay the hell outta my science and I’ll stay the hell out of your church.”

So true.

May 26th, 2008 at 8:31 AM

gnomic says:

Ben Stein must be feeling a lot of love this week:

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/05/ben-stein-its-the-buildings-stupid.php

May 26th, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Bill W. says:

Trouble is admiral is that you don’t stay out of my church

August 19th, 2008 at 6:57 PM

gnomic says:

I assume you mean gnomic, not admiral. And I have not only stayed out of your curch, I’ve supported the idea that inside the confines of your church, any consenting adult can play with snakes, beat each other with clubs, or practice ritualistic cannabalism, and the government should have no say. Be as racist, mysogonistic, and homophobic as you like. After all, that’s the whole point of religion - to let you believe whatever you want, no matter how stupid it appears to anyone else.

But for you to be free, so much everyone else. You have to be tolerance of others outside the confines of your church. If not - well, try living in mideast where everyone is fighting each other. If you like that sort of thing, then move there.

August 20th, 2008 at 1:53 PM

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