Debate turning point

Published 10/15/08

I think last night’s presidential debate was going in John McCain’s favor, but clearly – based on all the polls –  didn’t end up that way. And I believe there was a three-word turning point in that debate: “eight years old.”

In fact, Mr. Ayers has become the centerpiece of Sen. McCain’s campaign over the last two or three weeks. This has been their primary focus. So let’s get the record straight. Bill Ayers is a professor of education in Chicago.

Forty years ago, when I was eight years old, he engaged in despicable acts with a radical domestic group.

Obama made the perfect point that the whole line of discussion was moot. But McCain still wouldn’t drop it. At from that point on, slowly but surely, the debate swung back to Obama.

There are a lot of reasons McCain lost the debate – he was angry, bitter, condescending, and evasive. But there’s your turning point.

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Jeff St Real says:

Yep, if not those three words, then certainly that question. I thought after McCain issued the “I’m not George Bush” response, that he was going to go for the knockout. That was his high point, though. From there on he was snarky and goofy and it just fell apart.

There was a lady from Forbes magazine on Fox News last night and she made a great point that each successive debate reinforced confidence in Obama and led to more uncertainty in McCain. I would have voted for Obama on issues alone, but now I’m convinced he has the steady hand and the character it takes to be president.

All of these accusations about Ayers, and whatever else the Republicans are pulling out of the bag, are so anemic that they just look pathetic. I don’t mind Sarah Palin going out there making an ass of herself, but to see McCain doing it just makes me sad.

October 16th, 2008 at 5:00 AM

Christina says:

Huh, that’s funny. Yet he still associates with a known domestic terrorist? Eight years old was just the beginning not the end! You guys are cool with that? It’s ok that he wishes more destruction was done on 9/11? And they bombed the pentagon more? That’s cool. Not a problem.

It’s ok he’s not held accountable to explain his assoications with known domestic terrorists, known racists, known radicals. His complete lack of experience and addressing issues.

Pathetic!

WAKE UP! OPEN YOUR EYES! STOP DRINKING THE KOOL-AID!

October 16th, 2008 at 9:07 AM

Andrew says:

And William Timmons, who McCain works with now, and who is the head of McCain’s transition team now, was a lobbyist for Saddam Hussein!

That’s not someone McCain was vaguely connected with years ago — that’s a guy on McCain’s staff today.

October 16th, 2008 at 9:32 AM

gnomic says:

When you can’t run on the truth of the failed policies and corruption in your party, the repudiation of every position you’ve held for a 20+ year career, from torture to religious intolerance to deregulation, the obvious foolhardy judgment of picking a grossly unqualified and unethical vice presidential running mate, all you can do to revert to the GOP playbook and try and make people scared of the other candidate.

There is very little that Obama could do that the Bush/McCain/GOP axis of evil and incompetence hasn’t already done. Bin Laden killed 3,000 Americans. Bush has killed more soldiers by putting them in harms way based on a lie. The GOP has spent taxpayers money like drunken whores, doubling the deficit in less than 8 years. McCain, Graham, and the GOP have deregulated and gutted consumer and environmental protections, causing the economy to collapse faster than anyone predicted, killing and poisoning Americans with harmful drugs, food safety lapses, mining “accidents,” and unregulated toxins. The Bush administration has subverted the Justice Department, ignored the US Constitution and the laws of our government, and lied to us - both overtly and through the use of illegal propaganda. And McCain has his head so far up the right wingnuts arse that he can’t even be civil to someone who represents over half the country for 90 minutes at a time, yet wants us to believe that he can work with other world leaders to restore our leadership and moral standing that Bush has squandered and destroyed.

Osama Bin Laden should appoint Bush and his cronies to high positions within Al Quida for they have done more lasting harm to America than Bin Laden could hope and pray for.

And you want us to be scared of the one guy who is standing up with a plan to address our problems? Are you out of your fucking mind?

October 16th, 2008 at 11:00 PM

gnomic says:

The Lie of Trickle Down Economics

During the 1980s, for every $100 added to the value of the global economy, around $2.20 found its way to those living below the World Bank’s absolute poverty line. During the 1990s, that share shrank to just 60 cents. This inequity in income distribution - more like a flood up than a trickle down - means that for the poor to get slightly less poor, the rich have to get very much richer. It would take around $166 worth of global growth to generate $1 extra for people living on below $1 a day. To get the poorest onto an income of just $3 per day would require an impossible 15 planets’ worth of biocapacity. In other words, we will have made Earth uninhabitable long before poverty is eradicated. If we are serious about helping the poor rather than the rich, we need a new development model

From http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/mg20026786.600-special-report-does-growth-really-help-the-poor.html

October 16th, 2008 at 11:04 PM

tommy says:

if i hear mccain call us ‘mah friends’ again, i will throw up.

October 20th, 2008 at 8:27 AM

tommy says:

andrew: why is this tagged under ‘technology’

October 20th, 2008 at 8:29 AM

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